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At this time, we’re rewatching the 1991 film Hook, starring Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman and directed by Steven Spielberg.
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Present Notes:
Nova’s Woman Scout Cookies
Decor inspiration:
Granny Wendy’s Home
The youngsters’s bed room: a balcony with home windows that open so you may step out, vintage vibe, dollhouse, beds with canopies, fort that they constructed, cool outdated crystal chandeliers, tasteful and attention-grabbing wallpaper, and historic stuff.
Granny Wendy’s bed room: each inch of the wall was coated in artwork and gold frames.
Little touches all through home with hints for films: ship in bottle that’s Captain Hook’s ship, a number of candles, and many frames.
Misplaced Boys Treehouse Compound
Extra a fantasy playground to take your children to
Not one thing you’ll need in your yard
Lengthy desk, skateboard ramp, zip traces, sling shot, and their very own sleeping quarters
Captain Hook’s Cabin
Fire with creepy cravings
Little miniatures
Plenty of collections: classic mirrors and footwear
Dropdown mattress
Oil portray of himself
Different cozy inspiration (vogue, meals, drink or something?)
Superb costumes, particularly the baseball uniforms
Magical mermaids
Fee this film from 0 to five Hooks
Emma – 12 hooks for visible however 3 crocodile burps for storyline
Elsie – 6 hooks
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Episode 222 Transcript:
Elsie: You’re listening to the Stunning Mess Podcast, your cozy, consolation hear. At this time, we’re rewatching the 1991 film Hook, starring Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman, and directed by Steven Spielberg. I’m so excited. I like this film. That is one in every of my favourite films from my very own childhood and I completely consistently push it on my kids. So I feel it needed to be carried out. Goldie was truly, we had been watching it yesterday to prep for this and she or he requested me, she mentioned, isn’t your podcast for grownups? And he or she was like, why are you watching a child’s film?
Emma: That’s query, Goldie. Yeah. Very perceptive of you.
Elsie: I do know, proper? However I imply, I really feel like should you’re a millennial individual, you grew up with Hook. Most likely. I hope you probably did. If not, I’m sorry as a result of it’s in a roundabout way society failed you as a result of it truly is the last word.
Emma: It’s unhinged in all the absolute best methods. And there’s so many well-known individuals in it. It’s simply well-known individual, well-known individual, well-known individual. It’s loopy. So nice film. So should you haven’t seen it, right here’s a synopsis. Principally it’s Peter Pan grown up and he has forgotten that he was Peter Pan and Captain Hook comes again and kidnaps his kids and Peter Pan has to return to Neverland. Keep in mind who he was. He’s Peter Pan. He can fly. He can struggle. He can crow and save his kids from Captain Hook. And Captain Hook, in the meantime, is low key attempting to get the youngsters to like him as a result of he thinks that it’s going to make Peter Pan jealous and unhappy. And that’s just about the plot of the film. It’s a two and a half hour film although, for the way quick that plot is. That is like one of many longest children films that I can consider.
Elsie: Yeah, I feel it truly is likely one of the longest children films of all time. I imply that could be very lengthy. I watched it in like three settings, and I didn’t even get completed all the best way. However I watched it final 12 months, so I felt like I used to be shut sufficient.
Emma: We deliberate, my husband and I, we had been like, okay, as quickly as Oscar goes down, make a quick dinner and begin this film as a result of it’s lengthy, and we’re drained. We can not keep up until midnight watching Hook so, needed to get began. It’s lengthy, it’s an extended one.
Elsie: Okay, reminiscences from while you first watched this film. So we had this film on a VHS tape as kids. So it was very repeated. We sort of had like The Robin Williams assortment, like, just about this one and Mrs. Doubtfire, although, are for me like my very often rewatched, so, I most likely watched it like 100 instances in life, , as a result of while you’re a bit of child, a minimum of within the Nineties, within the period earlier than Disney Plus, you simply rewatched the flicks that you just owned so many instances.
Emma: Yeah, I really feel like we had, like, eight VHS tapes of youngsters stuff that we watched was like Little Giants, Hook, Mrs. DoubtFire, Sister Act 1, Sister Act 2, Rookie of the Yr, , and the rationale I bear in mind them is as a result of we watched them so many instances since you would simply rewind them. After which watch them once more since you didn’t have streaming. That wasn’t how TV labored again then.
Elsie: Yeah. I feel that once I suppose again to my childhood, me watching this, I had loads of consideration in the direction of Tinkerbell. And like Julia Roberts’ little Tinkerbell, and never as a lot now. Now I really feel prefer it’s extra like equally unfold out by all of the characters, however yeah, it’s a fantastic film. I don’t suppose as kids, we actually recognize that, however one of many causes we needed to do it for the podcast, it actually is sort of a stunning inside design film. So should you want one thing to observe along with your child, that is also stunning for you, and might hold your consideration in a roundabout way, that is one thing we suggest.
Emma: Yeah. Visually, this film is a ten out of 10 or extra. It’s simply unbelievable. All of the costumes, all of the interiors, all of the props, all the things concerning the visuals is unbelievable. It seems to be like they made it like a Disney world and filmed at it. You understand what I imply? It’s loopy. And yeah, as a child, the 2 issues that I bear in mind protruding to me was there’s a scene the place a personality will get in bother with Captain Hook. He thinks that they’re a traitor they usually put him in a field they usually name it a boo field they usually put a scorpion in with them on this chest field. I bear in mind as a child considering that was so scary and as an grownup, I additionally suppose it’s so scary. I additionally like for no matter cause within the early 90s, scorpions had been a little bit of a factor as a result of I feel there’s a scorpion in one of many Honey I Shrunk the Children films. And it’s very scary too. So I bear in mind being very petrified of scorpions as a child, though it wasn’t like one thing that we actually have in Missouri. I don’t even suppose we’ve got them at throughout right here.
Elsie: Yeah. No, Nova has watched all of the Honey I Shrunk the Children not too long ago. And I’ll say we’re not going to do them in a rewatch most likely. However I extremely suggest them. I do suppose they aged properly they usually’re nonetheless simply nearly as good, like superb.
Emma: After which the opposite scene I beloved as a child and nonetheless love now that I feel holds up for all of the love that I had for it’s the meals struggle scene. It’s sort of the scene the place Peter Pan is changing into himself once more, as a result of he can’t see they’re having a feast and he can’t see it. It’s like a make consider feast. However then because the scene goes on, he begins to see the meals. And it’s sort of the second that within the film the place he’s changing into childlike once more, he can see the issues that the youngsters see. And so it’s this particular factor within the film, however visually it’s like, the meals is sort of made out of paint. It virtually seems to be like they identical to acrylic painted like pies and coloured whipped cream. And they also have this meals struggle that the meals doesn’t actually appear to be actual meals essentially, nevertheless it’s extraordinarily colourful and it largely all seems to be like whip cream.
Elsie: It’s paintball meals.
Emma: Yeah, it’s like paintball meals, nevertheless it’s actually enjoyable and it’s essentially the most stunning meals struggle scene. And as a child, I bear in mind considering like, man, I actually wish to have a meals struggle. That appears so enjoyable. Prefer it was like one of the best.
Elsie: Yeah. I like that. Oh my gosh.
Emma: I adore it.
Elsie: Okay. So we’re going to essentially break down the decor inspiration from this film. So something we’d use in our own residence, which to me was a shocker, however I do have some love, hate, sturdy reactions, et cetera. Okay. So the three important like areas that I really feel like are the keys. Inform me should you suppose I’m lacking any are Granny Wendy’s home in London. And the Misplaced Boys treehouse in Neverland, and Captain Hook’s cabin on the pirate ship in Neverland. Is there anything you suppose?
Emma: No I feel these are those, like, these are the areas I consider for certain. So Granny Wendy’s home, it’s in London, in order that they’ve gone on an airplane they usually’re in London now and the premise is sort of like they haven’t been right here in like 10 years or one thing, they haven’t seen her in a very long time. After they stroll into her home, it’s just like the second the place I used to be like, oh yeah, it is a Christmas film, trigger it’s like Christmas time, they’re visiting her for Christmas. And there’s a tree up, and like, so her home is a bit of bit embellished for Christmas, however I really feel like you may see what it will be embellished all 12 months spherical too. However yeah, so should you additionally need a low key Christmas film, I feel this suits the invoice. Seems it’s Christmas in the beginning of the film.
Elsie: That’s a cool statement. Okay, so the 2 elements in her home that I used to be very, like, targeted on are the youngsters’s bed room and likewise Grandma Wendy’s bed room. So, first we’ll do the youngsters’s bed room. I imply the youngsters’s bed room is like essentially the most magical a part of Peter Pan in addition to Neverland. Prefer it’s at all times magical as a result of it’s like this excessive up like lofty bed room with a balcony. It at all times has a balcony. It at all times has home windows you can open up and stroll out of.
Emma: So Peter Pan can fly and go to the nursery as a result of that’s the premise of the outdated story.
Elsie: Yeah, and this one could be very stunning with wooden particulars, a number of like an vintage vibe and it has a doll home. It has beds with a cover, like a fort that they’ve constructed. It’s excellent. I imply, I feel it’s like the last word kids’s bed room, so I beloved it. I might take all of that for my very own home. There’s nothing about it that I wouldn’t settle for.
Emma: I feel it would slot in your home too. It’s extra grandma and fewer spooky than your home, nevertheless it’s loads of the identical stuff. Like actually cool outdated crystal chandeliers, actually tasteful, attention-grabbing wallpaper, historic stuff. Like, yeah, I may see Goldie residing in that child’s bed room and liking it. Though she’d be like, the place’s all of the princess stuff? I would like extra princess stuff, nevertheless it’s sort of shut.
Elsie: So yeah, we will put just a few additional princess issues in there. Okay, after which the opposite room that simply, like, threw me was Grandma Wendy’s bed room. So within the scene the place they, like, the youngsters have simply disappeared, they’re, like, laying in her mattress all collectively, simply, like, speaking about, like, what to do. Her bed room is so good, and I used to be like, I feel I can use all of those concepts for my very own bed room. As a result of, identical to, the best way the mattress was located with the tables and the wallpaper and all the things, it sort of appeared like I may translate it. And, so the factor that was particular about it, that I feel my bed room’s lacking now could be that sort of like each inch of the wall was coated with artwork and like gold frames. Prefer it was simply actually full and it made me notice that possibly mine is sort of a little bit too empty for what I actually need.
Emma: Effectively, she’s a grandma.
Elsie: True.
Emma: It takes a lifetime to curate that sort of assortment, however , you may attempt to do it within the subsequent 12 months. I understand how you’ll.
Elsie: I can and I’ll. Yeah.
Emma: Sort of all through the home like each these rooms after which sort of the downstairs They present us that identical to little particulars of knick knacks and issues as a result of the home could be very full However they’ll present like a ship that’s inside a bottle and also you notice later that it seems to be identical to Captain Hook’s ship. I believed there’s a number of little I don’t know in the event that they’re actually Easter eggs, however positively just like the set designers had been like, that is Wendy’s home, and she or he’s been to Neverland a bunch of instances. So loads of her tiny knick knack decor goes to sort of replicate some Neverland issues, and it does, and it’s actually cute. It’s sort of just like the House Alone home in that manner the place there’s loads of little issues that you just don’t notice till you’re actually wanting and then you definitely’re like, Oh.
Elsie: It’s much like the House Alone home, however just a bit extra antiquey as a result of the House Alone home, it’s very 90s. Yeah, like very 80s, 90s. And this one is a bit more historic. But it surely does have that, like, full, wealthy feeling with, like, a number of candles, a number of frames, a number of, , simply particulars. And I feel that that’s most likely, like, one of many high issues that I’m drawn to, like, why I can’t determine as a minimalist. Despite the fact that I want I could possibly be identical to I like issues so full.
Emma: There’s nothing in you that’s minimalist.
Elsie: Effectively, I imply, I wish to be like I wish to be much less wasteful, so like I need just like the minimalist mindset, however I truly need like a maximalist house.
Emma: Granny Wendy has a maximalist house and it’s Yeah.
Elsie: I feel I’m going to take a screenshot of her bed room and simply end off my bed room precisely the identical as a result of it’s so excellent. So yeah, while you’re watching, catch that bed room and also you’ll see precisely what I imply. I don’t know. I really feel like there’s like this particular factor when there’s artwork even like behind the lamps, what I imply? Yeah, prefer it’s simply very full as a result of proper now it’s like I’ve my entire mattress and on that entire wall and the partitions beside all of it there’s one portray above our mattress and now I do know that isn’t good.
Emma: Your bed room may go extra. Yeah, the fireplaces 10 out of 10.
Elsie: Yeah. I adore it. Okay. So do you wish to do the treehouse?
Emma: Yeah, let’s speak concerning the treehouse. Which is definitely, I really feel like, deceptive as a result of it’s actually extra of a sequence of treehouses. It’s extra like a bit of neighborhood of treehouses.
Elsie: Let’s name it a treehouse compound.
Emma: I wish to know if there’s a treehouse HOA and it’s a must to adhere to sure issues while you transfer in.
Elsie: It is extremely constant, so I feel there most likely is.
Emma: Yeah, oh yeah. There’s some sort of one thing occurring there.
Elsie: Okay, so for me, like, the treehouse is one in every of, I imply, it’s like essentially the most epic, like, set of the film. There’s nothing from it I might use in my house. It’s extra like what you’ll need for like a fantasy playground that you could possibly like take your children to, you wouldn’t essentially need it in your yard or something, however like, it’s so huge and magical and the way they’ve, , they’re like lengthy desk the place they will all eat collectively and it’s excellent.
Emma: It has like skateboard ramps, it has zip traces, it has this like slingshot that they’re attempting to assist him bear in mind how one can fly and it simply shoots him into this huge like pool of paint principally. However they every sort of have their very own little sleeping quarters. It’s like they’ve their very own little treehouse part that’s like the place their mattress is and the place they sleep at evening as a result of it reveals all of them waking up within the morning as a result of they’re like, Peter Pan’s right here. He’s again. However then they discover out it’s simply outdated Robin Williams they usually’re like, he doesn’t bear in mind us. However yeah, it’s an epic, epic treehouse compound. And I can see why not one of the children wish to go house as a result of it seems to be so enjoyable. Simply play all day and simply be little monkeys on the market for certain.
Elsie: Yeah, it’s unbelievable. I feel it will make , like, factor at a theme park or one thing, , to make, like, that into, like, a large playground you can climb on and zip line. My children love a zipper line.
Emma: It has to have a skate ramp someplace for teenagers who know how one can skateboard as a result of it’s a giant a part of it. There’s a basketball part the place they’re enjoying basketball. Yeah, it’s simply, it’s cute. It is sort of a bizarre playground, like a bizarre playground the place they sleep within the bushes. It’s so cute. And also you see Rufio, you see the clock that Tinkerbell sleeps in. What else? There’s simply loads of like moments across the tree home space which might be very epic. I already talked about the meals struggle, however I really feel like that’s like a giant scene within the film. And yeah, it’s an epic a part of the film for certain.
Elsie: Ah! Yeah, I adore it. Okay, so I’ve this, like, completely satisfied reminiscence earlier than our grandma, Carina, handed away just a few years in the past, she sort of like had these like grand concepts, like one of many issues I beloved about her was she simply acquired these like very intense, form of like, borderline fantasy concepts of issues she needed to do for actual and I feel I inherited that trait from her. Yeah. It’s very like, I don’t know, it at all times made me completely satisfied, however one of many final issues I do not forget that she was speaking about was that she needed to construct one other, so she lived in a log cabin that she constructed herself and it was stunning. I might say like a medium sized log cabin, prefer it wasn’t small. It wasn’t a giant mansion. It was like, , three bedrooms or one thing. And he or she mentioned that she needed to construct one other cabin after which she needed it to be accessed by a bridge within the air. And I used to be like, oh my gosh, like that is, that was the factor about her that I like most treasured was identical to, I don’t know, it’s like she was nonetheless a bit of child in her coronary heart. Like, she was a dreamer. And I wanna be that manner. I like that about her.
Emma: I like that about her, too. It’s enjoyable, dreaming up until the top.
Elsie: Yeah. I want that I might’ve made her draw an image, although, as a result of the best way I imagined it most likely wasn’t the best way she meant it. But it surely would possibly’ve been, I don’t know.
Emma: It makes me take into consideration, like, when hospitals are related, like, over a highway with a bridge like that or one thing. And it truly is actually cool. It’s enjoyable to stroll throughout, like, Oscar loves these sorts of issues. Effectively, and I used to be like, are you gonna construct the opposite cabin over the pond, so that you want the bridge, so that you stroll over the pond, or the bridge simply goes over nothing.
Elsie: What’s the purpose of the bridge? Yeah.
Emma: Which is okay, however often there’s a cause, prefer it goes over a highway or one thing.
Elsie: Anyway, it jogged my memory of a treehouse once I was serious about it. And , like generally I’m going down a type of rabbit holes of just like the treehouse cabins, . Like Airbnb, should you go on there, it begins like recommending issues to you after which it’s like very simple to go down a rabbit gap for me.
Emma: I’m at all times taking a look at treehouse Airbnbs. It’s simply attention-grabbing.
Elsie: Yeah, I feel that they’re actually cool. So possibly at some point. So let’s do Captain Hook’s cabin. This half was the half that actually, like, shocked me. I used to be like, it is a vibe, and I might truly take all the things in his cabin. Like, for my own residence precisely. It’s vibe in there. And I wasn’t anticipating to be like, I feel I’m Captain Hook. Like, decor clever. It was excellent. It was excellent. So it had a hearth with creepy carvings, which is like one in every of my high of the tops. It had like little miniatures, which I like. After which he had identical to loads of collections. Like when he sits down and he has like eight classic mirrors. It was like, oh my gosh, I feel I’m him.
Emma: All his footwear. And so they’re all precisely the identical, however they only present them lined up. It’s like, cool. Yeah.
Elsie: , The drop down mattress. Okay. So should you haven’t watched the mattress, it comes down from the ceiling a way, by some means. It simply has a pulley or one thing and a mattress simply form of seems from the ceiling. In order that half is actually cool. A superb answer. I’ve by no means seen anybody do this in a small house, however most likely somebody ought to. Even higher than a Murphy mattress. I imply, I feel it is likely to be higher than a Murphy mattress since you don’t have to make use of a wall on it.
Emma: No. It simply comes proper down from the ceiling. So I feel too, like his cabin seems like a bit of little bit of a really fancy outdated man and later within the film they sort of reveal that he’s even older than you would possibly suppose he’s. Like one of many issues in Neverland is that you just don’t age when you’re there. Though you sort of do. There’s some issues with that within the storyline. However that’s, , no matter. That’s in addition to the purpose. The concept behind Neverland is that they’ve damaged all of the clocks as a result of Captain Hook is petrified of clocks due to the crocodile and time stands nonetheless. However you sort of see that Captain Hook has aged rather a lot and he’s a flowery outdated man, which actually matches his cabin and bed room rather a lot. And his greatest buddy, Schmittie.
Elsie: Sure. Finest man, no matter he’s. Yeah, it’s a entire vibe, and I feel it’s my favourite inside within the film, which is sort of a shocker, however so cool. Okay, the very last thing I’ve down is he has an oil portray of himself. And I actually suppose that if you wish to be Knives Out aesthetic, which I do, that’s just like the primary factor it’s a must to have. So I feel it’s time for me to place that on my checklist. And I need one for everybody in my household, not simply myself, however like, I need an vintage wanting oil portray of our members of the family so unhealthy. So I’ve to make that occur.
Emma: We had been at a museum over the weekend and it had like outdated, , oil work, , as a museum. And so they had some children ones. And I used to be like, oh my gosh, it’s a must to get one thing of your women. Trigger I used to be picturing Marigold, wanting sort of like a bit of queen to be in her portrait trigger she is going to. She’s dressed like that every single day anyway. And I simply suppose it’s so timeless and bizarre and funky. And yeah, it’s a factor to cherish perpetually.
Elsie: It’s positively a transfer. So I’m excited to do it. It’s simply so uncommon this present day, individuals don’t simply fee oil work of their household anymore. Not sufficient.
Emma: They actually don’t.
Elsie: Okay, properly, I decide to it. Everybody, you may maintain me accountable, I promise.
Emma: Additionally canine, I feel we want extra oil work of canine too, for my part.
Elsie: I like that. Or should you’re a cat individual, no matter. Okay, different cozy inspirations. Was there any vogue, meals, drink, anything?
Emma: Ido suppose the costumes on this film are unbelievable. Whoever the costume designer, the entire division, they did a fantastic job. A few of my favorites, although, is definitely the scene the place they sort of arrange this baseball recreation as a result of Captain Hook is attempting to win over Jack and he performs baseball and like his dad didn’t present up. Peter Pan didn’t present as much as his final baseball recreation and it’s like displaying what a nasty father he’s like he’s not concerned in his children’ lives. So anyway, Captain Hook units up this baseball recreation to sort of have a second with him and the outfits that the opposite pirates are sporting it’s like an outdated timey Baseball outfit. They’re like crimson velvet and simply manner excessive ridiculous. I used to be like, each costume on this film is bananas and so good. It’s like they went arduous with the costumes. I like the Tinkerbell gown outfit. I like her avenue put on too. And I really feel like if we don’t point out the mermaids in some unspecified time in the future, then we’ve actually missed the mark on the Hook episode.
Elsie: Oh yeah. Marigold walked in whereas we had been watching the mermaids after which she needed me to maintain rewinding it.
Emma: Yeah, their make-up, their hair. I imply, they’re underwater, so I don’t know precisely how they achieved all that. I bear in mind as a child considering like, wow, these mermaids look so cool as a result of they’re actually colourful and completely different wanting than mermaids in different films, I suppose.
Elsie: Yeah, I feel they’re one of the best mermaids ever. Very magical. Okay, I’m into the whole aesthetic. Like, the start of the film the place they’re simply, like, boring wealthy dad and mom, I’m into that aesthetic. I’m into the ending, I’m into all of it. I feel it’s simply, like, I don’t know, like, the right, like, mixture of, like, conventional and kooky. And, , I, like, tried to do a Peter Pan theme in one in every of our rooms, however then it didn’t work out as a result of the chandelier wouldn’t match.
Emma: Yeah.
Elsie: After which I needed to transfer it. However possibly I ought to do a Peter Pan theme in a unique place. I don’t know. Or it will probably simply be unfold out all through. True. Just a bit bit in all places, like Grandma Wendy. I feel I may determine that manner. Okay.
Emma: Since you saved the ship chandelier, so it’s already round.
Elsie: 100%. I imply, it’s a giant a part of my persona. It’s a giant chandelier. Everybody behold, should you come into my house, you’ll get the tour. You will notice the ship.You’ll not miss it. Okay. Is there anything?
Emma: I imply as we’ve talked about I feel visually this film is off the charts for me. Prefer it’s simply stunning units, stunning costumes, even down to love Rufio’s hair, how they modify Peter Pan’s hair as soon as he transforms and remembers who he’s like Robin Williams hair. They actually go for it. And I adore it a lot. And as a lot as I gush about this film and love this film, I might additionally should level out that I feel that there are some issues with the story. I sort of really feel prefer it may have taken like another draft. It’s just a bit unusual. So one the film’s fairly lengthy for a child’s film, however as I used to be watching it, I used to be like, okay I’m gonna suppose by what I might minimize if I used to be gonna attempt to get this right down to be two hours as a substitute of two and a half and there actually isn’t loads of scenes. Prefer it sort of does all slot in there fairly good. So it’s form of stunning in that manner. I might most likely minimize the scene the place Tinkerbell turns into massive and she or he principally hits on Peter Pan. So I really feel prefer it doesn’t make sense with the remainder of what her character does all through the film, the place she’s principally serving to him to get his children again. After which she has this second the place she’s like oh, you’re Peter Pan once more and also you sort of forgotten your children. Perhaps I’ll hit on you. It’s simply this sort of like what are you doing.
Elsie: Simply gonna see what occurs.
Emma: I Really feel like they only needed to point out her gown. It’s the one time within the film the place she turns into life measurement and she or he has this stunning like princess gown on. And it’s stunning. And it’s Julia Roberts who performs Tinkerbell. So I get like what they’re doing, however visually, 10 out of 10. Story clever, I don’t know what they’re doing with that scene.
Elsie: They only didn’t wish to waste Julia Roberts being tiny the entire time.
Emma: Yeah, that is smart. I get that. After which there’s simply this different half the place they’re sort of speaking about his origin story. They do a flashback they usually’re like, Peter Pan ran away. However what they actually present is that this stroller that rolls away from its mother who’s speaking to a different mother on a bench after which the newborn’s like laying on the street within the rain. And that’s the Peter Pan ran away. I’m doing air quotes proper now. I’m like, why did they present a child getting misplaced? That doesn’t make me really feel like Peter Pan ran away that makes me really feel like he’s simply misplaced which the opposite children are known as Misplaced Boys, so I’m like, it’s simply unusual. Then additionally, should you’ve learn the outdated e book, seen the outdated one, the story of Peter Pan. It does have a little bit of a factor the place like, the entire ladies or women within the story like Peter Pan. There’s this sort of bizarre factor with that. Like, Wendy’s sort of in love with him, Tinkerbell’s sort of in love with him, Tiger Lily’s sort of in love with him. It’s simply form of a factor. And on this film, they do this too, however there’s loads of completely different generations of girls. And so it’s very bizarre. And it’s just a bit like, you’re like, huh. If I don’t take into consideration that very a lot, okay. But when I give it some thought in any respect, story clever, I’m not certain what we’re doing. I don’t learn about that. That’s a bit of odd as a result of he marries Wendy’s granddaughter. Anyway, it’s just a bit bizarre.
Elsie: I feel generally you don’t wish to look that carefully. So it’s best to take your readers off for that.
Emma: Yeah, I sort of suppose if you wish to simply get pleasure from this film for the visuals, you might be in for a deal with. It’s beautiful, however don’t suppose too arduous about a number of the storylines. It’s bizarre.
Elsie: In case you wanna like analyze it intimately although, you may e-mail Emma and it appears like you may have a buddy who needs to do this with you.
Emma: Effectively, there’s additionally just like the alligator on the finish eats Captain Hook. This film’s been out perpetually, so spoiler, Captain Hook will get eaten by the crocodile, however the entire film, the crocodile is principally a statue. And so they’ve sort of talked about how they’ve, I feel killed the crocodile and stuffed it, however then ultimately it falls on him, doesn’t transfer in any respect, simply falls on him, and he disappears. I suppose he will get sucked up in there, however you hear the crocodile burp. So then I suppose he’s nonetheless sort of alive, I suppose. The crocodile burp for me is rather like what’s taking place? I don’t know. So anyway, there’s some issues concerning the story the place I’m like, yeah, I don’t know, I don’t learn about that. However I like this film. It doesn’t actually even smash it for me in any respect however I do not know. I feel it may have taken another go on the draft.
Elsie: Yeah, child getting rolled away in a stroller. How does that even occur in any universe ever?
Emma: Then it falls out of the stroller into the road and Tinkerbell finds the newborn. I don’t know. It’s an issue, I feel. Story clever, it’s an issue.
Elsie: Aww. Effectively, I feel it’s a really artistic tackle Peter Pan, as a result of I’ve watched loads of these films with my children. And as kids, we watched the Mary Martin model, the place there’s a girl, a blonde woman with quick hair who performs Peter Pan. That was one in every of our VHS tapes. I like this one. It’s aged rather well. It’s very stunning. It’s very magical. And I feel that if we’re being trustworthy, each model of Peter Pan has some sort of downside as a result of it does have like some racism and a few issues that like some individuals suppose that such as you shouldn’t even learn Peter Pan or watch any film, , as a result of it’s like, it’s a bit of tainted and I get that. So I feel that yeah, I don’t know, Peter Pan is sort of a difficult factor to tiptoe round, however I do suppose it’s a magical story, and I do suppose that issues, , that had been written like 100 years in the past typically have issues.
Emma: Yeah, I like that they’re doing a grown up Peter Pan who has to recollect his previous. I feel that’s an attention-grabbing premise.I might give it like 12 out of 10 hooks for visuals after which identical to, , like three crocodile burps out of 5 for storyline.
Elsie: Okay. I’m gonna give it six out of 5 hooks simply because I didn’t acknowledge Dustin Hoffman the entire time I used to be watching it.
Emma: So, Certainly one of my favourite of his performances.
Elsie: I’m in love with him. I feel I’ve a crush on Dustin Hoffman a bit of bit. Anyway, now I’m like, I get it. I get it. Anyway, okay. All proper, let’s do some trivia. This trivia is actually good. You wish to go first?
Emma: Yeah. Okay, so there are loads of well-known cameos within the film. So George Lucas and Carrie Fisher are the kissing couple on the bridge when Tinkerbell is taking Peter again to Neverland. You actually like can’t even hardly see them.
Elsie: I didn’t know that in any respect.
Emma: They’re identical to lifting up off the bottom as a result of she will get a little bit of fairy mud on them and the thought is that they’re having a cheerful thought. And completely satisfied thought is what makes you fly. You actually don’t even see them, so it’s humorous that it’s well-known individuals. Glenn Shut is the bearded pirate who will get locked within the boo field.
Elsie: That’s epic.
Emma: Which till that, I really feel such as you don’t even know that it’s a girl in any respect. And Gwyneth Paltrow is a younger Wendy. After which this one I didn’t even notice in any respect within the film, however my husband did. It’s Phil Collins is the police inspector. Simply Yeah, Phil Collins is in it. I don’t know.
Elsie: Jeremy has a giant Phil Collins factor, so I feel I might acknowledge him, most likely, from all his, like, sorry, however, like, very creepy album covers. His album covers are so intense. Okay. The road spoken by Rufio, you’re useless jolly man, needed to be spoken backwards by Basco, because the scene was shot after which performed in reverse. So the sword blade would come away from Robin Williams face as a substitute of towards it. His precise spoken line was, na me lod – I head rhy you that sounds actually arduous to carry out to me. In order that they did nice.
Emma: Rufio nailed it as a result of you may’t inform, it simply appears like he says, you’re useless, jolly man. Yeah.
Elsie: Oh my God, this subsequent one’s my favourite one. Go forward.
Emma: This one’s wild. Okay. Steven Spielberg and Michael Jackson’s friendship ended on account of this film. A number of years earlier, Spielberg had advised Jackson of his want to make a dwell motion model of Peter Pan, a personality and story that Jackson was famously obsessive about, as everyone knows, as a result of he had Neverland. Based on Spielberg, from then on, Jackson was beneath the impression, utterly mistaken impression, that Spielberg had promised him the lead function. And when he subsequently didn’t get the half, Jackson took the perceived snub extraordinarily personally and by no means spoke to Spielberg once more.
Elsie: Actually, like, I relate with that stage of, like, petty. If I really feel such as you stole a dream out of my head after which didn’t let me be part of it. Yeah, I relate with it. I get it, a minimum of.
Emma: However I additionally really feel like, are you able to think about Michael Jackson As a substitute of Robin Williams on this film?
Elsie: I even have by no means seen Michael Jackson act. Have you learnt if he ever acted or like what made him really feel like he could possibly be an actor?
Emma: I don’t actually know if I’ve.I’ve seen music movies of him.
Elsie: Yeah. No, I do know he can dance. I do know he can dance, however like, I wager should you do sufficient music movies, you most likely really feel such as you might be an actor as a result of there’s loads of appearing within the movies. However like, , he did the zombie.
Emma: Yeah, I feel musicians typically are, , performers they usually can translate, however I simply don’t see Michael Jackson.
Elsie: And it’s a comedic function, however I additionally really feel like, I hope that Steven Spielberg a minimum of supplied him a cameo, as a result of I really feel like he may have carried out a cameo if it was that particular to him. He may have discovered a possibly he didn’t wish to do it. I don’t know.
Emma: I imply, it appears like everybody acquired a cameo in the event that they needed one as a result of that they had loads of bizarre ones.
Elsie: If it’s like Peter Pan or nothing, I really feel like that’s sort of, that’s a bit of on you. Okay. The scene the place Peter passes his sword to one of many misplaced boys was improvised. Not one of the forged knew that he would go the sword aside from Robin Williams and Steven Spielberg, so the reactions of the boys had been real. Aww.
Emma: All of the little boys who play the misplaced boys nailed it on this film. They’re all actually good and quirky and enjoyable and I believed them and I believed they had been cool as a child and as an grownup now I’m like they’re lovely and I simply wish to hug every of them. So I beloved the casting of all of the misplaced boys on this film. They’re so cute. Okay, Steven Spielberg has crushed himself up over Hook all through the years. He mentioned that he felt like a fish out of water and didn’t trust within the script. Maybe his ideas are greatest summed up within the assertion from a 2013 interview. I wish to see Hook once more as a result of I so don’t like that film and I’m hoping sometime I’ll see it once more and maybe like a few of it.
Elsie: Oh no, that actually hurts as a result of I adore it a lot. I feel he’s arduous on himself, although, about his films, usually, as a result of I heard he was like that about Gremlins, which can also be one other, like, absolute banger. So, I imply, I suppose he possibly simply has very excessive requirements, which that’s most likely why he’s Steven Spielberg, however I don’t know. I really feel like he ought to simply, like, let this be one of many biggest kids’s films of all time.
Emma: Yeah, I additionally really feel like this and to an extent Gremlins, they’re very completely different clearly, however they’re each a bit wacky. They’re each a bit on the market stretch like this isn’t Jaws. That is one thing else and I feel they’re fantastic, nevertheless it most likely is sort of arduous to artistically love one thing that’s so wacky prefer it’s simply I feel anytime you stretch your self as a artistic, it may be arduous to like the consequence.
Elsie: Actually, I wager it’s identical to, he remembers these, like, few vital issues individuals mentioned, which everybody can relate to that. It’s like, while you make artwork, you at all times bear in mind the worst assessment. You do. You simply at all times bear in mind.
Emma: Do I like the script of this film? No. However do I like this film? Oh my gosh, sure. So I sort of really feel like Steven Spielberg made it.
Elsie: Okay. Effectively, we’re gonna write him a letter and we are going to set issues proper and we’ll ensure.
Emma: You probably did a terrific job, Steven. Yeah, we’ll make it possible for he is aware of. I’m certain you care what we expect. You probably did a terrific job.
Elsie: Okay. Dame Maggie Smith, being solely 56 years outdated on the time of filming, was aged by make-up to play 92 12 months outdated Grandma Wendy. I did marvel about that. I used to be like, how? Trigger we’ve been watching Harry Potter rather a lot and I’m like, how does she look the identical? Like simply eternally at all times the identical. That’s very attention-grabbing. I really feel like she was sort of like Betty White in that manner. Prefer it was like she was sort of doing like an outdated individual’s costume earlier than she was actually outdated.
Emma: I questioned in the event that they had been planning on doing extra flashbacks after which they didn’t. As a result of more often than not that she’s within the film, she’s the 92 12 months outdated with the heavy make-up. And the make-up seems to be nice. Very convincing. However yeah, I used to be like, oh, this actress, she’s probably not that outdated.
Elsie: She’s nonetheless alive proper now. Yeah. And this film’s from after we had been a bit of child.
Emma: She’s an exquisite actress, however I used to be like, why did they forged her? Why didn’t they forged somebody older? As a result of more often than not she’s outdated within the film, however possibly they had been planning on doing extra flashbacks or one thing, however then it didn’t work out. Trigger they had been like, oh, it’s already two and a half hours.
Elsie: I feel I picked the suitable individual. I feel she’s nice.
Emma: It was simply sort of a, , like, properly, okay she’s simply in heavy make-up the entire time. All proper. I don’t know. Okay.
Elsie: Okay. So, I suppose that’s all the things for Hook. We love this film. We’d love to listen to from you your rewatch requests. So it may be something. It may be a child’s film, it may be a brand new film, it may be an outdated film. The one factor although it has to have is, like, rewatchability, the place you could possibly watch it, , like, you’ve watched it many, many instances in your life and also you’re by no means uninterested in it. And the second factor, it has to have like, identical to the comfortable, the aesthetic. We did do Jurassic Park, which might be like essentially the most unhinged factor we ever did.
Emma: Jurassic Park is superior.
Elsie: Did we do Gremlins already or had been we doing it subsequent 12 months? I wager we’re doing it subsequent 12 months.
Emma: I really feel like we simply speak about it on a regular basis.
Elsie: Okay. I used to be simply beginning to consider all of the Steven Spielberg films, however anyway. Okay. Are we his greatest followers? I do know I’m the most important Gremlins fan.
Emma: I additionally love Minority Report.
Elsie: However we’re not doing Minority Report for the podcast.
Emma: Why not?
Elsie: Oh no! Okay. Ship us your request. If you would like Minority Report, then I have to know that one different individual in addition to Emma on this entire world would need that. However yeah, I feel we do wish to hold doing these semi perpetually. As a few years as we’re doing the podcast, we are going to hold doing films as a result of they’re our favorites they usually’re actually enjoyable. Anyway, it’s time to go to a joke or a reality with Nova. Hey Nova, what do you may have for us this week?
Nova: A reality.
Elsie: A reality? We haven’t had a reality shortly.
Nova: Yeah, I believed we should always change it up. And so let’s do that reality. Do you know, like, within the outdated days, Skateboarding was known as sidewalk browsing.
Elsie: What? Are you severe?
Nova: Yep.
Elsie: That’s a cool reality. I didn’t know that. I wish to go sidewalk browsing. Do you wish to go?
Nova: Perhaps.
Elsie: Okay. Have week, everybody.
Nova: And I’ll let you know another reality to make you probably not wish to do it. It’s one of many harmful sports activities.
Elsie: Oh, most harmful sports activities.
Nova: As a result of lots of people have, like, scraped themselves. Or harm themselves, like, rather a lot. Perhaps, like, 100 individuals yearly.
Elsie: Oh gosh!
Nova: Or much more. So you could not wish to be a type of individuals within the hospital. . So I wouldn’t rely on it should you don’t wish to get harm.
Emma: All proper. Thanks a lot for listening. You’ll be able to submit questions or rewatch concepts at podcast@abeautifulmess.com or you may name and depart us a voicemail, however simply bear in mind to make it concise. So give it some thought forward of time if you wish to depart a voicemail as a result of we wish to play them within the episodes. And that quantity is 417 893 0011. We’ll be again subsequent week, and we’re going to be deep diving into shopping for furnishings on your house.
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